这一季编剧和导演…真的是把观众当傻子了…上一季也这样一点上帝视角都不给开很多我觉得很莫名其妙但就American style??
为了这个男人,我要疯了
眼睛无辜纯洁的小鹿般嘴唇却一直在说吻我god!!!
这个男的为什么不火??!
哈哈哈(ಡωಡ)hiahiahia
Clay在毕业典礼上说,"Hate is easy. Love and understanding are harder, and they are how we survive." 想到了《The Affair》里Bruce的话,"You will have plenty of opportunities to be angry in your life. You have less chance to love people, though. Really love them. So, you want to be careful how many of those opportunities you squander. I think young people believe they will just keep coming, but they don’t.Clay另一段话也很棒,"Even on the worst day, there are people who love you. There's new music waiting for you to hear it; something you haven't seen before that will blow your mind in the best way. Even on the worst day, life is a pretty spectacular thing."心理医生的话也很好 以后再记。
《十三个原因》第四季悄然到来,这部根据同名原著改编讨论校园暴力的青少年影视也迎来了最后一季。
四季时间,剧中高中角色经历了很多成年人也不会经历的苦难。
这些苦难就像从雪山山顶滚落而下的雪球,他们每个人站在滚落的雪球下方试图阻止雪球继续前进,但最后只会融入雪球,成为它的一份子。
雪球里掺杂着生者的血肉,死者的骨骼,旁观者的漠然。
经历了第一季汉娜事件,第二季法庭辩论,第三季全员改变后,第四季的核心变成了失控。
失控的人物,失控的环境。
失控的人物:群魔乱舞第三季结尾布莱斯之死所造成的影响还在持续,或者说汉娜死亡余波还在影响着自由高中这群少男少女。
第四季所描写的人物非常有限,除了克雷、杰西、贾斯汀、艾利克斯外,其余角色都很边缘化,泰勒、扎克像是打了一季酱油。
以克雷为代表,给我们展现了失控的人物有多么混乱
一直处于风暴中心的克雷所经受的磨难远远大于其他人,超乎同龄人的忍耐力让我们忘了他才是一名高中生。
诸多苦难加身的克雷终于承受不住这巨大的压力,导致轻微精神分裂。
你什么时候见过主动打人的克雷吗?
你什么时候见过引导学生暴动的克雷吗?
以前那个总是一副扑克脸、面带倦容的克雷第一次消失不见,变成了一个不再隐忍、主动出击的暴躁分子。
克雷的失控只是一个缩影。
是他周围同伴的缩影,是自由高中学生的缩影,是美国学生的缩影,是世界上所有人的缩影。
克雷很有可能成为第二个汉娜,比汉娜幸运的是,他被拯救了。
他有跟他共同经历的伙伴理解他,他有家庭成员关心他,他有真正在乎患者的心理医生辅导他。
他有汉娜所没有的伙伴、关心,所以他可以被拯救。
这也是《十三个原因》想表达的重心。
我们每个人或多或少都经历过苦难,但如果我们都能对别人多一分关怀,那这些苦难都不见得有多苦,我们都可以挺过一场又一场磨难,然后让自身更强大。
除了克雷等主角,第四季对于同性恋的包容程度超乎我想象,甚至可以说达到了放纵的地步。
如果没看过前三季你甚至会怀疑这是不是一部关于同性恋题材的美剧,感觉谁就算不是同性恋也是双性恋。
艾利克斯就是其中戏份最重的。
从扎克到韦斯顿到查理,足足处了三对CP!
艾利克斯的感情线甚至成为了最重要的一条主线。
同时也是最让人感动的一条主线。
剧中对于艾利克斯情感描写格外细腻,从一开始性取向的懵懂到与查理之恋感动全校成为舞会双王,无人不为之感动、欢呼。
查理邀请艾利克斯去舞会那一幕幕很容易让人湿了眼眶,Gay浪漫起来真是没异性恋什么事。
我没有生活在美国,也没有经历过任何同性恋斗争,所以很难去想象美国同性恋群体究竟经历过怎样的斗争,过着怎样的生活。
不过看到剧中所有人对于同性恋那种包容、祝福,不经感到欣慰。
他们赢了。
失控的环境:人间地狱在一系列事件后,自由高中决定实行严格管理。
校园一夜之间犹如监狱,学生与警察相伴,进校需要安检,随时强制搜身,四周布满监控,甚至出现封锁校园的情况。
自由高中,不再自由。
严格的管控不仅没有起到安全作用,反而激发了学生强烈不满。
于是校园涂鸦,毁坏摄像头等行为不断发生。
警察对学生的管控明显过于偏激,甚至出现了种族歧视。
对一个种族的过度执法点燃了最后一根引线。
哪里有压迫,哪里就有反抗。
即使9分钟的压迫尚会导致全国暴动,何况数个日日夜夜的压迫。
于是,学生罢课,与警察对峙进而引发暴动事件,自由高中瞬间宛若人间地狱。
关于学生暴动的描写无疑将本剧主旨提升了一个档次。
如果说之前还停留在一群高中生耍着性子小打小闹,那暴动直接上升到了对国家层面的影射。
参考最近美国乔治·弗洛伊德之死所引发的暴动事件,让人唏嘘。
除了暴动具有成人向外,泰勒做警察线人深入毒贩窝点也让我为之一振。
可以说第四季主题早已从刚开始的校园霸凌问题跳脱出来,把社会更深层次的问题呈现给观众,引发更多拷问。
这方面是第四季做的比较成功。
《十三个原因》初始愿望是引发人们对于校园暴力的关注,它确实做到了这点。
但第二季、第三季剧情崩塌反而让人从校园暴力的重心转移到了剧集本身质量合不合格。
特别是拖沓的第三季让不少人弃剧。
第四季反其道而行之,不再拘泥于剧情,而是把校园暴力之外更加严肃的社会现象掺杂到剧中。
它也没有像之前一样大多时候处于中立地位,只是让观众自行评断孰对孰错。
第四季剧组明显表态校园暴力所带来的伤害足以致命。
告诉被压迫的人民应该反抗而不是继续忍受。
站在同性恋一方高呼同性恋无罪。
无善始有善终。
《十三个原因》最后还是给了我们一个“大团圆”结局,即使死亡也带来了更多希望。
舞会带来的感动与结局每个人的大学录取通知书让人泪奔。
他们的高中生涯结束了,他们的青春结束了。
他们关于强奸、谋杀、毒品、谎言的卑劣青春结束了。
他们关于性、爱情、友情、未来的美好青春也结束了。
结束不了的,是13reasonawhy.info网站依然存在。
结束不了的,是屏幕前依然冷漠的我们。
追了四季,第四季说实话一开始我看不下去,放了很久才捡起来看。
一开始的感觉就是乱七八糟,各种鸡血,各种为了推动剧情而硬让角色不发生,产生误会。
很想给两星不及格。
看到中间,我想起来,这不就是孩子吗?
高中生,不就把考不及格、失恋都当成天大事情吗?
所以有人死掉难道对于他们不是天大事情吗?
今天看完了,我想说,一切bithcy和dramatic的背后,其实就是我们的青春,这么多事情发生,对于他们来说就是天塌下来了。
我想给第四季五星。
因为这些成长的痛我们都经历过,只是表象不一样,它们都刻进了我们身体,美好、痛苦,都成为我们的一部分。
我们没办法也不应该去摆脱这些,总有人说当初如果怎么怎么就好了,或者如果去掉什么就好了。
但是这些才是我们之所以成为今天的我们的原因,缺一不可,而这,是我们应该感激的。
Ep1 Winter BreakHeatwave / Lean [Jessica and the group prepare Justin’s Welcome Home party]For a While / Fenne Lily [Jessica and Justin chat at the end of his party]XYZ / Flasher [the Future Fair]Bottom of the Deep Blue Sea / MISSIO [Alex and Zach walk along the rooftop]Harm / IO Echo [during Clay’s journey home from therapy]Fear The Future / St. Vincent [ ending credits ]
Ep2 College TourSTRANGE DAYS / HEALTH [Clay and Justin walk to school]Not My Story / Cable Ties [Clay and Zach skip the college tour to attend a fraternity party]The Breath of Light (Chris Liebing Burn Slow Remix) / Lost Under Heaven [Winston and Alex talk on the college campus tour]Noise of the Void / Drab Majesty [ Zach talks to Chloe on the stairs ]Behave / Summer Cannibals [ ending credits ]
Ep3 Valentine's Day Princess Diamond (Feat. Kelsey Bulkin) / Kero Uno, Kelsey Bulkin [ the HO meeting ]Batgirl / Kahikko, Kantola [ Ani and Clay walk into the Valentine’s Day dance ]Can’t Stop Your Lovin / Poolside, Panama [ Tony and Tyler DJ the dance ]I’ll Come Too / James Blake [ Clay and Ani talk and slow dance ]All Da Way / Allday [ Clay receives a phone call from Monty’s phone at the dance ]Maybe in the Summer / SASSY 009 [ Justin attempts to stop Zach from returning to the dance ]Losing It / FISHER [ Tyler leaves the dance after answering a mysterious phone call ]Maze / Juice WRLD [ Clay walks back into the dance, covered in fake blood ]Riding / ESKMO [ ending credits ]
Ep4 Senior Camping TripI See the White / Jess Williamson [ Jessica returns home to chat to Ani ]
Ep5 House PartyBetter That Way / Tusks [ at Monet’s, as Jessica talks to Justin ]The Way it Goes / Sneaks during the party ]Tiny Dancer / Elton John [Clay and Zach sing this at the party]Shake That (Wiggle Wiggle) / Like Son [ Clay talks to Valerie ]I Was A Widow / SASMI, Dustin Payseur Clay and Valerie have sex ]Under The Moon / 070 Shake [ Tony fights in the ring ]Why me / LoneMoon [ Jessica and Justin talk in the kitchen ]Shimmy (feat. Blackillac) / MISSIO, Blackillac [ Clay is confronted by Valerie’s boyfriend ]My Body / Young the Giant [ Zach and Clay are speeding ]
Ep6 ThursdayToday I’ll Have You Around / Florist [ Starts playing when the active shooter drill comes to an end ]Melt The Guns / XTC [ ending credits ]
Ep7 College InterviewNo Songs
Ep 8 Acceptance/Rejection2020 /Maserati [ at the beginning of the episode, during Clay’s 2060 dream ]Black and White / Parquet Courts [ Zach and Alex destroy the office ]The Modern World / The Jam [ during the school walk-out protest ]Sundown / Gordon Lightfoot [ ending credits ]
Ep9 Prom Can’t Take My Eyes Off You / Frankie Valli [Ani sings this song to Jessica as she asks her to prom]Love Me Like the World is Ending / Ben Lee [ Charlie asks Alex to prom ]You’re Not Good Enough / Blood Orange [ Clay gets ready for prom ]Lick in Heaven / Jessy Lanza [ Diego speaks to Jessica and Ani ]Banana Ripple / Junior Boys [ Clay, Alex and Charlie arrive at prom ]Over Here / Mk.gee [ Tony and Caleb sit next to Clay at prom ]The Good Side / Troye Sivan [ Winston dances with an imaginary Monty ]Would You? / Richard Swift [ Alex and Charlie’s first dance together as prom kings ]Carry On / Tkay Maidza, Killer Mike [ Everyone starts dancing to this song ]Best Part / Daniel Caesar, H.E.R. [ Jessica and Justin dance together ]Give Yourself A Try / The 1975 [ Clay asks his mum to dance to this song ]True Feeling / Galantis [ The final song to play at prom ]
Ep10 Graduation The Shape of a Storm / Damien Jurado [ Tony returns home to find Caleb video-calling his dad ]Salesman At The Day Of The Parade / Rogue Wave [ Clay walks through school ]Half Gate / Grizzly Bear [ Justin’s friends sit in the waiting room at the hospital ]Washing Of The Water / Peter Gabriel [ everyone visiting Justin ]Believe / Amen Dunes [ Clay talks to Justin in hospital ]Unbelievers / Vampire Weekend [ graduation ends ]On the Floor / Perfume Genius [ graduation ]Here Comes a Regular / The Replacements [ the group bury Hannah Baker’s tapes ]Take Care / Beach House [ Clay looks out at the town after burying the tapes ]Half Light II (No Celebration) / Arcade Fire [ Clay packs for college ]Trouble / Lindsey Buckingham [ ending credits ]
看到大结局,其实松了一口气。
在我看来,这季最大的特点,也是多给一星的原因,是加入了很多编剧对当下社会问题的思考。
从任何严肃的角度,结局都是政治不正确的。
Alex得以脱罪,本质上因为父亲作为副警长的包庇(第三季),以及收获潜在告发者Winston的爱情(第四季)。
换别人做同样的事情,很可能是万劫不复。
这样设置,说明编剧不想为了政治正确而写成悲剧。
可贵之处,恰恰在于舍弃所谓教育意义,给了孩子们新生的机会。
活着的,就好好活着。
像不像余华《活着》体现的价值观?
其实,拥抱家庭和爱,为此不惜背离社会责任,在最近的影视作品中并不鲜见。
正如警长对副警长(Alex父亲)说,他曾以为工作是全部,现在他(被副警长的包庇行为打动)意识到家庭的重要。
这让我想起了《天气之子》的结局,为了小爱,放弃大爱。
这样的话题之所以最近屡屡出现,很可能因为在一个万物崩坏的时代,很多人在自己的社会角色中,内心朴素的取向和社会价值已经出现了巨大偏差。
在众多无法理解无法确定中,唯有身边的家人、爱人是确定可以抓住的。
确定性成了稀缺资源。
需要注意,剧里设定的社会崩坏,已经快到了无可救药的程度。
本季一个充满隐喻的镜头,是Zach在Alex差点跌落楼顶时候救起他。
让人想起《麦田的守望者》里面的守望者(catcher)这一美国社会很重要的意象——当年的一代人曾经梦想着能够做个孩子成长过程中的守望者,让孩子们在麦田尽情玩耍,只是在他们快要掉进悬崖的时候拉一把。
随着塞林格这本书的主流化,至少在美国中产阶级里变为共识。
看这本书长大的人们现早已为人父母。
剧中出现的父母、学校老师、教练、心理治疗师、警长,无一不是有意识或无意识地饰演着这样的守望者角色。
同学之间,也有彼此的守望。
Clay和朋友们对Tyler,Zach对Alex,等等。
然而,这个剧让我们更多看到的,是守望者们的无力。
当年,无数人以为做到守望就可以让年轻人的世界变好。
现在看,真的可以吗?
主人公Clay是所有无奈和矛盾的汇合点,是个人无力的守望与社会现实的最强对比。
在他身上,可以看到守望者形象与美国式的个人英雄主义,而他的精神崩溃恰恰说明这种思想的天真与不现实。
他的挣扎,固然来自于种种现实的因素,应当同样注意到,还有很多内心的原因:成人世界灌输的道德观、源自人性的宗教式的追求、还有源自历史文化的教徒般的处事方式。
如果上一季中“幸存者”主要指性侵暴力的受害者,而这一季扩大到了每一个孩子,暴力也变成了结构性的。
“High school hurts” 是Clay和父亲为数不多的共识。
在这个剧无数的夸张情节,有美国当下特有的问题,也有很多跨文化跨时间的永恒问题。
每个人的成长,都是一部幸存史。
毕业日到,Clay们多数幸存下来,并一定程度上与自己和解。
余华《活着》里面的“活下去”哲学,不是中国特有,也不是某一个历史时代特有。
活下来,就有希望。
这一季的死亡是预料之外,情理之中。
Justin之死,在我看来绝不是所谓的教育或者警示意义。
在一个结构性暴力盛行的社会设定里,Justin其实是一个可怜的受害者。
结局把他写死更可能出于编剧的恻隐之心:与其看他在一个不可能戒掉的毒瘾中挣扎一生,不如让他解脱。
尤为讽刺的是,第四季更新的当天,美国街头正在持续着抗议。
这和剧中高中生们的“造反”形成了互文关系(虽然很多剧情设定不怎么真实)。
Jessica在结尾说,恨非常容易,而爱很难。
俗套,但在当下很应景。
民粹的泛滥,将一切社会问题进行简单的反智归咎,纵容仇恨和社会分裂,把全社会带向了不归路。
同样发人深思的是剧中对“白左”的反思:有多少人为了政治正确,说了很多漂亮话,却完全没有直面问题最丑陋的本质?
比如,当下美剧盛行的角色种族背景、性别、性取向平衡(包括本剧),有多大程度上是真的直面问题,有多大程度上又是做做表面文章呢?
因为过度关注表面文章(甚至上纲上线),而给人社会进步的错觉,也许比没有表面文章更值得悲哀。
这是一个什么时代?
出路到底在哪里?
美国首位黑人联合国代表Edith Sampson在一次毕业演讲中说,这个世界上不存在简单的问题,也因此不存在简单的回答。
这季,也许能启发一些人,这个社会真正的问题从来不在于左还是右,而在于深还是浅。
看到第九集简直全程姨母笑。。。
Alex和Charlie太可爱了啊阿啊阿以及发现校长是gay时候的二脸懵逼⬇️⬇️⬇️
笑死我惹哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈Justin终于出现简直圆满Clay邀请妈妈跳舞终于做个人了编剧为啥要这样啊如果就在第九集结束不好吗啊啊啊啊啊啊!!!
看到第十集结尾简直泪目,Clay和Jess的毕业致辞,Justin的申请信,一起埋葬磁带,这个暗号简直绝
连心理医生都很高光!!
真的很喜欢每一位主配!
比第三季好很多。
虽然但是,我还是很喜欢Winston,颜太对我了...Everyone is so fucking broken!! Especially Clay, being so overwhelmed, and what the fuck, his the one causing troubles and drawing attentions all the time, and being afraid at himself at the same freaking time?? And Justin too, broken from the beginning...Why the fuck Justin had to die?? He is finally getting better, having a better life, and it all just goes away, like that? Like he freakin didn't deserve it, what the fuck?? Is everyone in .... so freaking open? Or it's just drama? I mean, they get into a relationship so quickly, come and go so easily all the damn time, well, sorry I don't know any shit about relationships. But for Winston, like why Monty?? His not even being kind to him, is it because he saw something different inside Monty that no one ever does, not even himself? And what the fuck man, he just dropped everything off, because he loved the two guys, and he don't want to hurt Alex?? But, think of it again, yeah, what else can he do when he knew the truth? It would be so easy if the ONE is Jessica, but it's not... And wow, these high school kids are so fucking crazy, shouting and arguing at the principals, starting a riot with the officers, fooling the adults and the cops (which they actually don't) like really, wow man.Speaking of cops, wow again, that they actually figured it out and decided to covered it up too. Is it lucky that Winston didn't make a move to the cops? Cuz clearly the cops know, and they ACTUALLY closed the case. I really don't know what to say about this, whether their actions are right or wrong. I mean they are covering up for the kids, so Alex can stay 'innocent', have a normal live, or so they think. But how about Monty, let the dead bury the dead and have the titles on because he's dead? Well, how selfish people are, but, what to do?And this fucking drama really influence my language, I mean, will this app even censor the words??? Fuck I don't know, and I don't care. It's 9am and I didn't sleep at all this whole fucking night.Anyways, their speeches are really inspiring, for me. Feels like it takes a lot of experiences, damages, hurts, and to go through a lot shit, to actually understand, and say all those words out. Truly, admire. I just hope one day, I'm able to do a speech like them, I didn't mean that kind of 'dark' shit, but to talk like them, confidently and bravely in front of the audiences, I truly hope it, one day.
第四季就冲着Alex去的了 😄😄男主过的太辛苦了 啥事都往自己身上放 不是自己做的事但他自己搞的也很心虚的感觉。。。。
看的时候特不喜欢Monty 他对Tyler做的那些事情我无法原谅。
说实话第四季他over了 I'm happy。
但我为Justin小可爱伤心 他的结局可以好一点的😰
献给Charlie,这个剧唯一一个让我完完全全喜欢的角色,从始至终是剧里的一抹温暖的阳光,虽然年龄上比大多数的主要角色都小,但是比任何一个人都成熟,会照顾别人,心地善良,值得信任,有自己的想法和独立的人格,是橄榄球队很好的队长,对整个球队有着积极的影响,第四季里和Alex的关系也是全剧我最喜欢的一对!
我是单纯喜欢第四季Charlie和Alex的感情线,其他剧情的槽点太多我就不说了,还有就是Alex在前三季对Jess爱得死去活来,是如何做到在这一季突然变弯的,我也很无解,我觉得Alex拿了女主的剧本只是更凸显出Charlie是个绝好的男朋友。
赞美一下Tyler Barnhardt,一汪湖水般的蓝眼睛,明媚的笑容,顺带着Miles Heizer这一季也没有那么阴沉了,两个人都太好看了!
现在的美剧里涉及lgbtq+的角色其实已经不少了,但是绝大多数还是gay or lesbian,很少听到bisexual的,况且能把一个传统意义上典型的football team captain + quarterback设定成bisexaul真是一件很好的事情!
全剧两个人的戏我都截出来了,单纯就是想记下他俩一起的时光,超甜,而且每次他们的对话都很有意思,下面是每一集两个人的戏!
EP04 在senior camping trip的最后一夜,Charlie安慰Alex关于Winston的事,真的非常懂得照顾对方的情绪,知道Alex不愿意别人知道,所以就没有点破,最后祭出大杀器,granola camp cookies?
Charlie: I'm sorry about everything with Winston. That's not fair. Alex: Oh, well, I mean, it wasn't anything, really.Charlie: Seems like...maybe it was.Alex: What do you know?Charlie: I know that... you're a good person. And I'm sorry if you feel like shit or whatever. That's all I know.EP05 Charlie向Alex解释什么是Find Your Drink party,被Alex感谢了之后傲娇的语气非常可爱!
Alex: What is a Find Your Drink party anyway?Charlie: You find your drink before you head off to college. You know, like tequila, vodka, whiskey. You try them all, find which one is your drink, so you know. Alex: Can't you just know?Charlie: Yeah, I don't know. I don't endorse the traditions. I'm just simply reporting the details as I get them.Alex: Yes. And it's appreciated.Charlie: Thank you! 在Find Your Drink party上,两个人躲在小房间里聊天,Charlie做了special cookies,两人聊到他妈妈去世,感觉得出Charlie是个很乖很乖的小孩,和他妈妈很亲,他妈妈离开一定很难过,而到最后却又变成Charlie在安慰Alex,能把一个party过得这么悲伤大概也就这俩人了。
Charlie: Do you want a cookie?Alex: You seriously brought cookies to a Find Your Drink party?Charlie: Well, these are special cookies.Alex: Oh, shit. I didn't know you were a stoner.Charlie: I prefer the term "cannabisseur."Alex: These are actually really good cookies. And they don't stink. You're like a baker or something.Charlie: I had to learn how. My mom died when I was 13. So, me and my dad, we had to figure it all out.Alex: Oh, shit. I'm sorry.Charlie: It's all good. I actually learned how to make these to help my mom through chemo.Alex: Oh, man, Charlie, I'm so sorry.Charlie: Yeah, no, it's fine. I mean, it's not fine, but it's fine that it's not fine. If... that makes sense.Alex: Yeah, no, it totally does. I wish I could be fine with not being fine. Charlie: You will be, someday.Alex: Wow, you and me do not know how to party.Charlie: Or do we and everyone else has it wrong?两人磕high了,开始不着边际地瞎聊,说自己是Yoda是什么鬼,还有就是知道了Charlie的超长超WASP的名字。
Alex: I chose it? No, that doesn't seem like me. To make a choice.Charlie: Nevertheless...chose you did.Alex: You sounded like Yoda just now.Charlie: What if I was Yoda and you didn't know it?Alex: I think I'd know. I mean, you'd be green, and...it's a puppet.Charlie: I am nobody's puppet.Alex: Nope. You are not. You are Charlie.Charlie: I am Charlie. Hm, Charles Hayden Brixton Saint George.Alex: Shut up. No, that is not your name.Charlie: Shit you not I, my name it is.Alex: You're rich.Charlie: Nah, just old-school WASP. No money. Nice antiques.Alex: You look rich.Charlie: Thank you? Or...Shut up!Alex: You're welcome. Do you think it really is a wonderful life?Charlie: Sometimes.EP06 校园枪击演习时,Alex的panic attack发作,Charlie帮助他安定下来,继而又是TBI发作,Charlie再次帮他安定下来,所谓患难见真情,演习结束之后两个人分享了第一个kiss,超美好的!
而且Charlie其实很早就开始关心Alex,还会去google什么是TBI,他真的是个非常能让人有安全感的人,有那种能让人安定的力量。
Alex: I fucked this up, like I fuck up everything!Charlie: Alex, hey, listen to me. Listen.Alex: I can't breathe. I think I'm dying.Charlie: Focus on your hands. What do you feel like? Describe it to me.Alex: I don't fucking know!Charlie: Just squeeze my hands.You can do that. Come on. I know you can. Come on, Alex. Focus on me. Just breathe. You got it. It's gonna be OK. Just breathe.......Alex: That's my dad. My dad. He's out in the hallway. Fuck, I hear him. No, that's my dad! He's right out there. Can't you hear him? He's calling my name. He's out there.Charlie: Alex, it's the TBI. OK? You're not hearing your dad. It's your brain making you think you are. He's not there. It's the stress.Alex: No, I hear him.Charlie: Alex, it's not him, OK? It's your mind. Trust me. ......Alex: Yeah, that happened to me before, last year early on, but...it hadn't happened in a while.Charlie: That was the stress.Alex: Yeah, how did you know, like, what it was?Charlie: Uh, I... I googled TBIs a while back. just to know what they entailed. Like, what you were going through.Alex: Yeah, you know, I'm a freak, so...Charlie: No, no, no.Charlie kissed Alex.Alex: That... was surprising.Charlie: Surprising good or surprising bad?Alex kissed Charlie back.EP07Charlie以为两人算是在dating了,但Alex却退缩了。
整个一集都是Alex在非常典型的自卑和自我怀疑中,鉴于他之前有这么多乱七八糟的事情,而Charlie是人见人爱的橄榄球队长四分卫,他觉得自己配不上Charlie。
这段时间Charlie也挺受伤的,想要追上Alex却一直被推得远远的,好在Charlie是个非常坚持的人,锲而不舍。
Charlie的经典语录,Titanic is a thing,Alex经典语录,You are like a golden retriever。
Alex: What the f... Who does that?Charlie: Guys do it. It's a thing. It's... it's, like, a Titanic, king-of-the-world kind of thing. I've seen it done.Alex: OK, well, I'm not Kate Winslet, and what is even happening here?Charlie: Like between us? I guess, uh, I kind of felt like maybe we would be a thing, you know? No? Uh... I don't know. 'Cause you're, like, the first actual guy I've kissed who's, like, kissed me back. And you're a real non-imaginary person.......Alex: What are you even doing here?Charlie: I wanted to see how it went.Alex: Oh, my God, you're like a fucking golden retriever. Don't you give up?Charlie: No, I'm like, uh... Russell Wilson. Never giving up on a play, always scrambling. So, how'd it go?Alex: It sucked because I'm extremely fucked up, and if you weren't an idiot, you'd stay away.......Alex: How did you find me?Charlie: Your mom. Don't worry, I told her it was about homework. Not the fact that you like boys, at least sometimes, and you're also breaking my heart.Alex: I'm not breaking your heart.Charlie: You definitely are.Alex: Why? Why would you like someone like me?Charlie: See, there you go doing that self-depreciating thing.Alex: It's "deprecating."Charlie: You do... that self-deprecating thing where you think it's about you. But what you're saying is I'm dumb for liking you. You're, like, questioning my taste. And the thing is, I have excellent taste.Alex: You're very confident. Charlie: I am very confident. You know, most people find that attractive.Alex: I'm suspicious of confident people.Charlie: OK. Alex: OK.Charlie: Well, I'm confident enough to be OK with that.Alex: Well, I'm not confident, OK? I never have been. And I have a brain injury, and I've done these terrible things that I'm never gonna get away from. I'm not a good person. And you have this, like, king-of-the-world jock thing, so I'm never gonna win an argument about why we shouldn't be together. You're gonna have to just take my word for it. I'm gonna walk away now. Please don't follow me.EP08校园骚乱发生,Alex和Zach砸了院长办公室,正当要被警察抓住的时候,Zach问Alex你为什么和我在一起而不是和Charlie在一起?
Alex意识到Charlie可能有危险,自己还是很关心他的,于是冲出校门,看到Charlie被防暴警察打趴在地上,非常紧张,俩人就再次患难见真情了。
EP09Charlie受伤之后,两人就确定关系,Charlie有时候晚上会睡在Alex家里。
超级甜的!
Touché?
Alex: Charlie, please. Wake up. Come on, my folks are up. You gotta sneak out.Charlie: OK. Yeah.Alex: You sleep like you're dead.Charlie: I like sleeping. I like sleeping next to you.Alex: Yeah, me too.They kissed.Charlie: Someday, maybe we could do more than just literally sleep together?Alex: Yes, we will someday, but right now, you gotta go.Charlie: Or I could stay and meet your parents.Alex: Yeah, or we could meet your dad and the entire Liberty High Booster Club of which he's the president.Charlie: Torsheer.Alex: You mean touché?Charlie: No. I don't know that word.Charlie向他爸出柜,我非常非常喜欢他出柜的那句话,I like people for people,他爸的反应也是可爱到爆炸,有这样的爸爸真的好!
这段对话我看了无数遍还是会笑出声,我特地还去看了Eli Manning长什么样!
Charlie: I'm not...one hundred percent straight. I'm not any percent straight. I'm bisexual, I guess, and I like people for people, and...I have a boyfriend currently.Dad: Yeah.Charlie: What do you mean, "yeah"?Dad: I mean, I love you so much. Always have, always will, and you make me so proud. Charlie: By not being straight?Dad: By being yourself.Charlie: But wait, wait, wait, what did you mean by "yeah"? Did you know?Dad: I could sense that you were figuring something out about your sexuality.Charlie: How?Dad: Just... watching you, living with you.Charlie: But, like, what? Specifically.Dad: Well... no self-respecting middle school quarterback is that big a fan of Eli Manning.Charlie: He has two Super Bowl rings.Dad: He got them almost by accident.Charlie: And he never gives up.Dad: A good quality when you throw more interceptions than completions.Charlie: How are you doing this to Eli Manning? You said you loved me.Dad: I do, and in the eighth grade, you had Eli Manning wallpaper on your phone.Charlie: He was a very good quarterback.Dad: He was shirtless.Charlie: He's very handsome.Dad: He absolutely is.随后Alex带着Charlie回家吃饭,顺便出柜,他哥哥的反应也超搞笑,被这样的家人支持和爱着真好!
Mom: There you are, boys. I don't believe Peter and I have met our dinner guest tonight.Alex: Uh, yeah. This is Charlie.Peter: Charlie St. George, the new quarterback.Alex: Yep, um, and...also, he's my boyfriend.Dad: Well, good to see you again, Charlie. I hope you like steak.Peter: You're dating the fucking quarterback? Sweet! That's awesome!Mom: You OK?Alex: Yeah, no. I...I don't know. I thought this would be a bigger deal, somehow.Mom: Well, is he good to you? Does he make you happy?Alex: Yeah. A lot.Mom: Then it's a very big deal to me.Chalie真的是最浪漫的甜心男友没有之一,搞这么多花样邀请Alex去毕业舞会,甜到心都化了!
背景歌曲是Bee Lee的"Love Me Like the World is Ending"Alex:OK, if I say yes, will this all stop?Charlie: Yeah, that... that's the point of it.Alex: So...Yes.Charlie: Yes, Charlie...Alex: Yes, Charles HaydenBrixton St. George. I will go to prom with you.They kissed happily.EP09全剧最美的毕业舞会,两个人真的帅到爆炸!
Charlie会帮Alex拉椅子拿饮料,处处帮着护着Alex,每次看到Alex他爸都会非常有礼貌的叫sir,Charlie从内到外都透露着一股温暖友善的气质。
最后两人被选为Prom Royalty真的不能更好了,Charlie带着皇冠,请Alex跳舞的时候会说Your Majesty,会小心翼翼地牵着Alex的手走进舞池,多么贴心的男朋友啊!
其实在我看的这么多校园美剧和电影里,就算已经很多lgbt+的角色,但是两个Prom King我倒还真是第一次看到,非常赞!
两个人第一支舞的背景歌曲是Richard Swift的"Would You?"Charlie: Are you sad? Right now?Alex: Some part of me will always be sad. And another part of me is happier than I've ever been before. I think...I think I'm in love with you.Charlie: I'm confident you are...because I know I'm in love with you.They kissed.EP10两个人一起去看生病的Justin,因为不能带花,Charlie就让Alex抱了个大熊猫娃娃,叫Tiger,之后就一直放在Justin的病房里直到他去世,最后一集实在太难过。
Charlie跑去教训Zach的时候就真的像是一个大人在教训小屁孩,之后和Alex再度找到Zach让他去看望Justin,Alex说起当初在天台亲了Zach的那次,Charlie听到就吃醋了,Zach还调戏说it was a nice kiss,Charlie就更酸了,Zach的醋也要吃真是没谁了!
(Zalex党不要打我)Justin去世,Charlie上台致辞,是EP03的开头,Charlie真的是一个好朋友好队长。
Charlie: I was the young guy. The new kid. But, this past year, I feel like I truly became a friend. Like I found a whole new group of friends, and we went through a lot together. And we'll get through this.不管是什么时候,Charlie都一直支持着Alex,Alex在经历了这么多事,作为一个suicide surviver,最后能说出I'm just really happy to be alive right now. 我也非常欣慰。
看着Alex这一季在Charlie的不断关心、帮助、鼓励和开导之下,当然更多的还有爱,变得开朗了,能和自己也能和过去和解了,确实是很开心,Charlie正面影响对Alex非常大!
(虽然我对于他把Bryce推下湖这个事始终不太能释然,再怎么洗这还是个不对的事情,犯法这个事在本剧里已经不是重点......)Charlie每次看向Alex的眼神里都是爱,太甜了!
毕业典礼的时候,Charlie也作为家人,和Alex的爸妈和Peter一起坐在看台上,太美好了!
The End!
撒花!
总算完结啦网飞就是腐剧大本营吗justin和clay也太惨了alex真大女主剧本
Netflix最好今年之内能拍出Alex和Charlie的衍生剧以做补偿
终于完结,后三季的处境就跟强行加入的新角色Ani一样尴尬,实在没必要再添一笔两笔三笔。不过相比快进8倍速都注水严重的第三季,这季还是有回升的,虽然到头来也没等到Clay&Justin的室友关系更进一步,不过这季还好是Alex这条线可以追,小王子出柜记,彻底放开做自己,第九集伴着戳的《The Good Side》还是有真情实感眼眶湿润。其实这部剧后面跳崖式下跌也是和执着于前面的案件有很大关系,早点放手去开辟新的故事或许不至于落得现在的收场。
终于完结了!!好不容易熬结束了,一季不如一季,核心人物一个都不讨人喜欢,Clay简直就是抓马queen,attention bitch,矫情的要死,剧本实在弱
合着后面集体神经病啊
如果我以后有小孩我会让他好好把《十三个原因》看几遍,最好烂熟于心,每个角色都能自动代入,背出台词最后一集根本就是催泪核弹这应该是我看过真的唯一一部没有在美化毒品的青春向美剧了(虽然我真的很爱亢奋,但它美化到我简直觉得是吸毒宣传片)没有美化任何我所知的人生的困难,但依然鼓励不论什么处境的人都互相理解尽力拥抱这样的题材只有真正会爱人和关心这个世界的人才拍的出来,感谢导演和所有演员,每一季都能让我感到诚意,这个世界需要更多这样的作品,这个作品也值得被更多人看到
也许孩子就是这样无助,我们看起来很简单为什么不能说出来不能解决的那些事情,对于他们就是天大的事。今天看完了,我想说,一切bithcy和dramatic的背后,其实就是我们的青春,这么多事情发生,对于他们来说就是天塌下来了。我想给第四季五星。因为这些成长的痛表象不一样,但是都刻进我们身体,成为我们一部分。我们没办法也不应该去摆脱这些,这都是我们之所以成为我们的原因。
在狗血的路上越走越远,终于成了今天这个原作亲妈不认得的样子,hanna泉下有知这一波人尤其克雷傻成什么样子,怕是都要气的诈尸了。以及,克雷的演员怎么回事,是本来演技就差点意思?还是不认同这剧情走向软抗拒不好好演?还是别的什么原因?这剧情本来可信度就很低了,克雷的表演简直更出戏,尤其最后对着将死的justin,难过都演不好,为什么躺在床上的不是你!崩溃。
和上一季一样,已经开始反智了。。。
这一季Clay完全失控了。Alex的爸爸和警长,应该是知道实情的,但事情的真相随着Brace档案也永久封存了。Justin我哭死。小可怜。既然一切都没有意义,何必在意呢。活下去吧,生活还要继续,就像最后一幕Clay和Tony开着车继续走下去。
看完整系列不容易,从上季开始就越来越崩了,这季全员神经病,可怜我Justin
3.5,liberty high简直就是研究青少年心理疾病和行为的最佳场所。最后三集勉强把这一季拉回及格线。
妈的气炸了!为什么不把温斯顿和alex写在一起!
如果一个学校的环境对LGBT可以有爱到选出一对prom kings,之前那一些列悲惨的强奸案根本不会发生。强奸的土壤是父权,父权的土壤开不出LGBT的花。回想第一季暗色调的开始,最后强行安上一个明亮的结局显得割裂和轻佻,若要说是童话或史诗传奇式的拓展,数次毫无必要的角色死亡又像在这迷幻帐篷顶上捅了个洞。
为麦姐姐的幸福人生,以及花式show狗粮给5个星
把主人公写成躁郁神经病是一个正经的编剧会做的最后一件事
这季最好看的内容有:Justin/Winston/Alex的颜,和Tony的发型谢天谢地终于完结了,这季诈尸的次数超过了前面三季的总和吧,真是duck不必
这他妈开局五分钟 搞得跟迷墙一样 直接给我吓尿了
老是幻觉也太无语了,clay真的反智。剧情真的很牵强,好好的拍成什么惊悚片服了,真tm难熬,有点想弃剧。加一星给PROM,从第一季的爱情到最后的友情,不容易啊
看得出来编剧野心很大想讨论好多青春难题 但剧本就跟这里面孩子们的生活一样一团糟 人设全面崩塌 剧情毫不连贯 唯一坚持看下去的动力就是终于本色出演的miles和他的女主剧本(虽然cliche但架不住颜值太高) 这么多好看的直男伙伴谁不想都亲一下呢 最后还摊上死缠烂打的puppy charlie 也算苦尽甘来 PS 戳爷的good side恰到好处 那对莫名cp都能小感动我一下 PS2 最后一幕原班人马一起上阵也是挺唏嘘 作为一个曾经还算喜欢的青春剧的终结 打三分意思下吧